New Perspectives, Who's Afraid of Couples Therapy?, Session 1, Overcoming our Fears: Why Therapists Avoid Doing Couples Therapy
presented by Peter Pearson and Ellyn Bader, fl. 1984; produced by Virtual Machina; interview by Rich Simon, fl. 1980, in New Perspectives, Who's Afraid of Couples Therapy?, Session 1 (District of Columbia: Psychotherapy Networker, 2012), 1 hour 10 mins
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